99 - How to Eat Carbs and Lose Weight
Are you not eating carbs solely to lose weight? Are you terrified of kicking yourself out of ketosis because that means you’ll never be able to get the results you want?
This week, we’re showing you how incorporating carbs into your diet does not equate to the beginning of a slippery slope where you’ll never be able to lose the weight you want to lose. Being keto for as long as we have, a big part of our journey has involved healing our relationship to carbs, and the secret we’re letting you in on this week is that it’s 100% possible to eat carbs and lose weight.
Join us on the podcast this week as we show you how to begin de-conditioning your carb phobia. The trauma so many keto dieters experience manifests in the extreme fear of carbs and sugar, but you can have the confidence to eat what you want without feeling like it’s going to completely derail you, and we’re showing you how.
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What You’ll Learn from this Episode:
- Why enjoying the way you eat is so important.
- How it’s possible to eat carbs and still lose weight.
- The lies you’ve been fed about the low-carb lifestyle and why it’s making you demonize carbs.
- How to begin de-conditioning your carb phobia.
- The results that manifest from the extreme fear of carbs and sugar that keto dieters experience.
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Maggie: Today’s episode we are going to be telling you how to eat carbs and lose weight.
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Ryan: Good morning. I feel like it’s been a long time since we podcast but it’s probably…
Maggie: It does feel like, yeah.
Ryan: It feels like a long time. I feel like a lot has changed since the last time we podcast.
Maggie: Like what?
Ryan: I don’t know. I don’t know.
Maggie: Exciting things though, fall is happening. I am obsessed with fall. We’re coming up on a 100 episodes. And so, we’ve gotten through fall of 2019, fall of 2020. Now we’re on fall. So, I’m sure I told you guys how much I love fall.
Ryan: The people know.
Maggie: But I was just telling Ryan, I was like, “If I could bottle this feeling, the air, the food, the fire, I would. It’s my favorite. So that’s what I’m most excited about right now.
Ryan: Do you have any announcements before we begin?
Maggie: I do. I have a very important announcement actually. We are closing Vibe Club down for the rest of the year.
Ryan: Just immediately?
Maggie: Immediately. No, I’m just kidding. As of, oh man, I don’t have the date right off the top of my head. It’s October 3rd is when Vibe Club is closing down. We’re not closing down. Enrollment is closing. So basically, you’re not going to be able to join Vibe Club until 2022. So, if you guys have been on the fence and this is what’s cool. And I’ve been hyping this up for months because I’m so excited about it. It’s the end of the year. It’s the last three months of the year. It’s the last quarter of the year but it’s also the holiday time of the year.
This is a time when most people say, “Screw it”, and they stick their head and the sand and they pull their head out of the sand on January 1st. That is what most people do.
Ryan: And then they realize I’m the same weight I was last year because I did this.
Maggie: Yeah. Or I somehow gained 15, but how did this happen?
Ryan: You bust your ass all year up until September or October and then you undo all the work you did all year. And then you’re at the same place you were January 1st of the previous year.
Maggie: Yeah. Because if you’ve been going slow and steady, you lost 15, 20 pounds, maybe more than that. I mean you can really set yourself back depending on what you choose to do for the last couple months of the year. And I am very passionate about working with people who aren’t like other people, that are willing to be like, “No, I’m willing to do this work throughout the end of the year.” And it’s not hard work. It’s just a different set of skills that is going to allow you to lose weight if that’s what you want.
Because what I’ve been telling my people which I think, see, I think this is a gamechanger. You don’t have to lose weight over the holiday. But did you also know that you don’t have to gain weight over the holiday? Do you really understand that, that you could do exactly what I teach to maintain if you wanted to, if that’s what you wanted?
Ryan: And that’s a completely different skill than losing.
Maggie: Yeah. It’s just about staying in contact with your data, knowing what you’re doing, being aware of your exceptions, how the scale. And then you can just maybe indulge a little bit more, maybe eat a little bit over what you need and enjoy yourself a little bit more with the treats and stuff.
Ryan: I’ll be damned if I don’t eat apple pie ala mode.
Maggie: Yeah. I’ll be damned if I don’t get a pumpkin slice doughnut, a monthly cinnamon roll. I’ve got plans, thanksgiving, candy’s not a big thing for me. But depending on what’s important to me I know and I have complete confidence that I can enjoy it and I can lose weight if I want to. I can maintain which is what will probably happen. I can maintain if I want to. And I don’t think a lot of people believe that they can do that. They really have this idea that it’s going to be too complicated so they don’t want to do that at the end of the year because it’s so crazy at the end of the year.
There’s so much going on, all the parties and the events, and the kids, shopping and the holidays and all that kind of stuff. Most people do not care about weight loss at the end of the year. But what that translates into is most people go completely unconscious and gain weight at the end of the year.
Ryan: You have to learn how to maintain. It’s different than losing.
Maggie: Yeah. I have many clients who chose for the summer weight loss was not their goal. And do you know what they were able to do? Not gain weight. Just because you’re not – I think that’s the biggest thing, just because you’re not focused on losing weight doesn’t mean that the opposite of that is gaining weight. Do you know you can choose between losing and maintaining? And it’s a powerful, powerful skill to have.
So, if you’ve been on the fence, if you want to join Vibe Club, if our message resonates with you, this is the last chance to lock in the current pricing. Because when we reopen enrollment at the 1st of the year there’s going to be lots of bomb ass stuff first of all. But the price is also going to be raised. Is there anything else we need to say about that?
Ryan: No, I think we’re good.
Maggie: Okay, awesome. So that’s the only announcement I have. And what’s next?
Ryan: So yeah, I mean I think that kind of rolls very well into what we’re talking about today, speaking of holidays and eating carbs and stuff. So, I feel like I need to make an announcement here.
Maggie: I would love to hear it. Is this your coming out party basically?
Ryan: I am not keto.
Maggie: I knew it. Oh my gosh. It’s been so hard for our family. No, I’m just kidding. But yes, please, I hope everybody can listen to this episode because Ryan’s been having a little identity crisis on the internet because of people.
Ryan: I don’t have an identity crisis, other people…
Maggie: Yeah, other people are having an identity crisis for you. Yeah, they’re very confused about the oatmeal.
Ryan: Yeah, I understand that I’m on a podcast.
Maggie: Yeah, nobody’s listening to every word that comes out of our mouth. They’re not following us as closely.
Ryan: Well, I mean people are on the outside and if you listen to this podcast you probably know that. But people know that I’m on a podcast called Sustaining Keto. So, they assume I’m keto but it’s not the facts here. And so, I just feel that was needed to be said, I eat potatoes and rice.
Maggie: Yeah. That’s it, dude, now you know.
Ryan: And I love my life.
Maggie: Yeah, he’s having a good time and it’s sustainable, and you’re losing weight and there’s not a problem here.
Ryan: Yeah. But we’re talking about how to actually eat carbs and still lose weight because I don’t know if you guys knew that but it’s possible.
Maggie: Yeah. Well, and there’s a sliding scale with carbs. I think coming down to your carb tolerance, coming down to your desired amount of carbs. There’s a lot of stuff that goes into what does that look like from person to person. And for you and I it looks different. For you it means how many grams of carbs a day?
Ryan: It doesn’t matter to me.
Maggie: I know, but if you were going to guess.
Ryan: If I were to guess, 150.
Maggie: Just to give them a frame of reference.
Ryan: 150 to 200.
Maggie: Especially on a podcast that has been keto focused pretty hard in the past. So, 150 to 200. And then for me what it’s looked like is one to two times a week I will eat an exception meal or just add rice.
Ryan: It’s going to be different for everyone. I was curious so I polled Instagram and asked people, “Are you not eating carbs solely just to lose weight?” Because I think if you’re in the camp of reducing carbs for other reasons, please, more power to you.
Maggie: Yeah, totally. It only becomes a problem, I mean it really becomes a problem when you’re like, “I’m not eating carbs because I know that I can’t lose weight.” And I had spoken with one of my clients, so I shared, that’s what the focus is on for next month in Vibe Club. We’re going to go deep but we’re going to give you guys a lot of good tips on this podcast as well. But when I announced that that’s what we were focusing on next month I got a lot of messages, especially from my current clients that are super hyped about it.
But one specifically that stood out that said, “So for the first time in two years I ate my grandma’s homemade or handmade tortillas, warm flour tortillas.”
Ryan: Sounds so dank.
Maggie: First of all, that sounds amazing. And I was like, didn’t want to be too nosy but she is my client. And I just said, “Okay, can I just ask you a question? Did you not eat those for two years because you haven’t seen her, she hasn’t been making them or was it diet related?” And she’s like, “Yeah, I wasn’t eating it because of the carbs. I wasn’t eating it because eating carbs equals weight gain or not weight loss.” You can’t have the two, you can’t simultaneously. And then I have all these messages from people.
First of all, I loved that message because it was just like we’re not always eating for a specific reason. But we do have these reasons why we’re eating that are family related, or event related, or just important moment related. Did I already say it’s her 80 year old grandma?
Maggie: You don’t know how much longer, if she’s going to be able to make those handmade tortillas that she makes with love and whatever. And so, I just think that we have to decondition our carb phobia, that’s just like, sorry grandma, you know what I mean? Sorry, and I know we’ve spoken recently about declining food. But you have to be able to have a balance of it all. When it really matters to you do you have the confidence to eat the food and not feel like, no, this is going to completely derail me?
Ryan: Well, can you remember when we first started keto? I remember very vividly when I first started keto, whenever it was, three years ago, that once I was in ketosis, the only reason I didn’t eat carbs was because I was scared to kick myself out of ketosis. Because I felt that if I was out of ketosis I wouldn’t get results and it wouldn’t work.
Maggie: Yeah. That’s what you hear people constantly saying, “Ketosis does not equal weight loss.” I don’t care how high your blood ketones are, it doesn’t mean you’re going to be losing weight. That comes down to your intake.
Ryan: That’s my beef though, is that the diet has this framework to make you mentally demonize these foods. And I was guilty of it too. It happened to me for a long time. I was extremely consistent with being in ketosis because of that being afraid.
Maggie: Yeah. But you’re afraid because of what you’re believing. And what you’re believing is just false. So, I think the best work that we can do is educating people on the fact that the belief, if you hold the belief that carbs keep you from losing weight, let us just say that is false, that is a lie your brain is telling you, that is a lie that has been fed to you by people who are trying to sell you ketogenic products and put a label on it that it’s like this will help you lose weight because look how low the carbs are. Always everything comes back to your reasons.
And I think there is a good portion of people, not all people that are literally afraid of carbs because they’re like, “Well, I won’t get the results I want. I won’t lose my weight.”
Ryan: Yeah. There’s a lot of people like that. I just know from posting carb content on Instagram, I get a lot of people saying stuff like that.
Maggie: Yeah. But we know, I mean plenty of people have done plenty of experiments of I’m eating McDonald’s for every meal but I’m staying below these calories and they lose weight. People have eaten every different type of way and lost weight. That’s why it’s just important that you like the way that you’re eating, that’s all that matters because that’s what’s going to make it sustainable, not your lack of bread. That’s not what’s going to be the difference.
If you’re choosing a low carb lifestyle, I hope you love it. I love it. I was just thinking about the other day. I was like, you know what? I was thinking. How many people are out there that are like, “I don’t like eating like this?” I don’t like over easy eggs. I was eating my eggs today and I was like, “Oh my God, these are so freaking good.” I eat my food and I feel that way a lot of the time. I love what I’m eating.
Ryan: Maggie woke up this morning perky as shit. And then she tells me, “I was a feeling a little ketosisy, so I tested and I was in ketosis.”
Maggie: This is what’s funny though, guys, I’m not trying to be in ketosis. I don’t care about that. Last week I had a cinnamon roll. I had a cookie. I had Chinese. If you follow me on Instagram, I had Chinese food on Sunday, that was Sunday. Today when we’re recording this is Thursday, that was three days.
Ryan: But, Maggie, Maggie, Maggie, I can’t eat that stuff because it’s a slippery slope for me.
Maggie: Well, I think that’s the problem, that you think it’s a slippery slope for you. And I get this so much, you guys. The reason I have waited to teach this part of what has become such a big part of my journey with really healing my relationship to carbs. Because after being keto for as long as I had and being low carb for as long as I had, there was some real damage done that I did not realize was happening. So, we all have diet trauma, diet trauma and diet mentality from all the things we’ve tried. But I believe that keto dieters have a very specific keto diet trauma.
And it manifests in the extreme fear of carbs and sugar that lead us to massively binge on carbs and sugar. It makes no sense. We’re terrified of it. So, if we ever allow ourselves to have some because we’re human and we know we will be eating that food at some point. I hear it from my clients all the time, “I’m already out of ketosis. It already doesn’t matter. I already screwed it up. I already messed this up. I’m already going to have to deal with the damage I may as well go hard.” And then they eat everything.
Ryan: So, what’s the solution here? If I’m somebody who thinks that I can’t eat carbs without sliding down the slope, where do I begin? I’m only restricting carbs to lose weight so if you tell me I can lose weight and eat carbs or healthy carbs at least.
Maggie: Well, the cool thing is that what we teach on this podcast and what I teach more in depth in Vibe Club applies to every diet. It applies to whatever diet you want to follow. So, when you get to a point where you feel like you do want to incorporate more carbs, and again there is a scale there. Someone like Ryan who’s like, “Dude, I don’t want to get rid of carbs. If I can eat carbs every single day, breakfast, lunch and dinner, that’s what I want to do.” The tools are the same. And so, it’s a matter of, I think the first step is being open to being wrong.
You have to release your grip on this story that keto’s the only thing that’s ever worked, keto’s the only thing that will work. And we have discussed this. There is a lot of issue with keto, being the fact that you see weight come off quickly that makes you think it works better. It works better than the slower, more consistent, more sustainable, more realistic.
Ryan: It’s water weight.
Maggie: People are like, “I just don’t understand, I lost seven pounds in the first week and ever since then it’s been a half of a pound to two pounds a week.” And I’m like, “Well, that sounds very healthy, including the water weight at the beginning.” That’s what happens with keto. So, there is this sense that low carb works even better because it’s faster. And how can faster not be better? But if you’re coming out of it with this keto diet trauma, that’s like I’m terrified to eat anything that’s not keto. And then we end up just going face first in it.
You have to be willing to be wrong about the fact that you can eat carbs and lose weight. And I think for a lot of people, you’re just so comfortable in your little keto bubble that you’re like, “Well, I wouldn’t even know what that looks like. I wouldn’t even know where to start.”
Ryan: Yeah, I’m scared.
Maggie: You start small. Don’t give yourself a carb week and try to see how it goes. Don’t even give yourself a carb day.
Ryan: Because then you’re just going to prove yourself right.
Maggie: And that’s the problem. That’s the problem. And how do I know that’s the problem? That was my problem. It was like, I can’t have carbs, I can’t have carbs, anything keto isn’t bad. If I eat off keto I’m going to get depressed. I’m going to get so anxious. It’s so scary. I was really scared. I was scared to go off keto. I would go off because I was having an emotional evening. I would eat everything in the house and then I would be like, “See, carbs are just bad news. They’re just not safe. It’s a slippery slope. I can’t be trusted.”
Maybe Ryan can, maybe Ryan can eat potatoes and rice with every meal but not me. I’m a special unicorn. I couldn’t ever possibly eat carbs. So, it’s more so use us as examples not us against yourself that you must have just been special to figure it out. You can do this too depending on what your carb scale is. So, I want you guys to check in with your carb scale. If you were going to implement them in, you may be someone who’s like, “No, I’ve only been doing keto for weight loss.” Then you may want to follow more of Ryan’s tips and what he’s doing.
And then if you’re more like me where you’re like, no, I’m doing keto and low carb for reasons that span far beyond weight loss but it would be life changing to be able to know that I could plan for a date night on Sundays and either maintain my weight or lose weight the next day. That would be a gamechanger for me and I don’t feel safe to do that. I don’t feel I have the power to do that. I don’t feel I have the willpower to hold myself back. I don’t feel I have the self-control. And self-control comes from your thinking.
And what I didn’t realize when I started trying to play around with carbs was that the thinking underneath planning the carbs and then subsequently eating everything in sight was that my underlying belief was that I shouldn’t be doing this. This is a bad choice. This is not going to help me reach my goals. This is not going to be helpful. I should not be doing this. And that thinking led to distrust with myself, which led to planning and way blowing past my exceptions only to then prove, see, I knew I shouldn’t have tried. I knew I’m never going to be someone who can do this.
Ryan: Yeah. I think there’s a few things to note too. You need to know that eating carbs and then the quantity of carbs is something you need to balance too.
Maggie: Well, can we also talk about quantity and quality of carbs? Because we were talking about that today.
Ryan: I was going to say that. I was going to say that.
Maggie: Yeah. So, we’ll start with quantity.
Ryan: I’m trying to think of a good way to put this. But I had gone through phases where I introduced carbs and I would load up my plate with rice. Take a big dinner plate and put rice on the entire bottom of the plate. I’m not saying that’s too much carbs because it could be different for everyone. But you need to realize that portion sizes matter, no matter what you’re eating.
Maggie: They do and one of my biggest hang-ups just because I think this will be very helpful was thinking there was a difference between carbs and eating my face off in carbs. It is very different to plan some rice with your dinner and some sweet peas which I seriously freaking love. Or to plan a cookie, or to plan a cinnamon roll, or to plan a thing, versus it starts with rice and then all that shitty thinking comes in and then you’re like so now I’ll have the Scooby Snack treats. Now I’ll have some Chex Mix, now I’ll have some of the ice-cream.
Now I’ll order some cookies for delivery and then blaming it on carbs rather than massive, massive overeating.
Ryan: That’s just what you’re thinking.
Maggie: And that’s all being driven by the fact that the story you’re telling is some variation of carbs are bad, I shouldn’t eat carbs, can’t lose weight if I eat carbs. And it just starts to get so where you’re just like, well now. I have been thinking about this. I like to call it YOLO carbing, where you’re just like, “You only live once.” As if this is my chance to get it in.
Ryan: YOLO carbs?
Maggie: YOLO carbs. Those are not planned carbs, those are not intentional carbs. YOLO carbs are either you’re just going off the handles or you’re starting with something that’s like I will eat some rice with my dinner and then all of a sudden you go YOLO carb mode and you’re just like, “Tomorrow we start over so what do I have, four hours? Alright, we’ve got to just get it in right now.” And you just eat, and eat, and eat everything that you can, everything that you never allow yourself to have, everything you don’t think you’re allowed to have.
You just pack it in and then you do, do damage. You’re not going to feel good. Your weight will definitely be up and rather than being like, “Maybe it’s just because I really massively overate last night and it’s time to keep going.” You’ll use it to beat yourself up.
Ryan: Yeah, I mean binging one night can undo all of the good decisions you made the week prior.
Maggie: Yes, but on the flipside of that it can also be undone in a matter of day but most of you aren’t doing that. You’re using that as an excuse to be like, “Well, now that my weight is up, now it doesn’t matter what I do for the next three days.” And then you’re compounding it, that is a snowball effect at that point. And I promise you guys, what we’re trying to say is that every bit of this, we’re telling you about what happens, every bit of this comes from the damaging carb and keto thinking that you have around carbs and that they are bad.
Versus there are nutrient dense carbs and there are nutrient completely lacking carbs. This is not going to do anything good for my body. This would be considered a healthy carb. There is a big range of that. And we equate all carbs into the same bucket.
Ryan: So, for you, how would you, talking about quality of carbs, I’m curious what you would define as the difference between carbs and an exception?
Maggie: Oh man, the difference between carbs and an exception, there isn’t. I don’t know. I just think that for me I’m fine with the terminology around exceptions. When I was redoing part of my course I almost got rid of it because I was just like, “I don’t want it to feel separate from what you normally do.” I want you to feel you can plan carbs any day. I don’t want you to feel because I almost get scared that people are like, exception, I’m going to make an exception, a cheat meal, they see it as that.
When really I just feel for me I’ve become so comfortable in what I like and what feels good for me. That to be like, yeah, I have an exception on Sundays but I eat carbs on Sundays.
Ryan: I wouldn’t even really consider that an exception. It’s part of your routine.
Maggie: But that’s just because you and I view what exception is as different, I think.
Ryan: I would say for you a cinnamon roll is an exception.
Maggie: But what makes it an exception? It’s just not what I would normally eat.
Ryan: Because you do it so rarely.
Maggie: Yes, that’s true. But it’s just again about how you think about the term ‘exception’. If you see it as an exception day, an exception meal, that just has – are you viewing it as a cheat meal? It’s not a cheat meal. It just means that for the most part my protocol feels very good being on Sundays we get what we want on date night. That just is standing, that’s a weekly standing thing. Throughout the rest of the week, I allow myself, first of all I allow myself whatever I want.
Ryan: But let’s also note that you don’t overeat.
Maggie: I don’t overeat, yeah. I’m telling you guys, I’m just having a ball just proving shit wrong. In the last week I was telling Ryan, I was like, “I’ve lost weight while eating breakfast. I’ve lost weight while eating processed keto, the things that stall you out like keto bread.” I’ve lost weight doing all of it, you guys, because it doesn’t have to do with that stuff. It doesn’t have to do with that. I’ve lost weight after eating Indian food. I’ve lost weight after eating Korean barbecue. I’ve lost weight after eating baked beans and pasta salad.
So, all of those things were planned. They were intentional. And you know what is even more important? Because I am working on this content for next month. I enjoyed them. So many of you are eating them and even while you’re eating them you’re beating yourself up that you shouldn’t be doing it. So, you don’t even get to enjoy the food that you love because you’re so busy thinking about once it ends how you’re going to beat the shit out of yourself, if you’re not already doing it while you’re eating it.
And then that takes out, what’s the fun in that? I love the food we get on date night. We’re going to Shabu-shabu, I think, I mean I guess we’re deciding right now that’s where we’re going on Sunday. It’s my favorite and I get sushi and I get rice. And yeah, maybe you guys wouldn’t consider it an exception meal because it’s not, what, naughty enough?
Ryan: It’s no doughnuts.
Maggie: Yeah, because it’s not sugar. But it’s just, no, I don’t normally eat this. And I have all my good reasons. And I’m sure you guys know all those good reasons. But I’m telling you guys, having the freedom to plan that out has given me so much freedom and balance. And I’ve lost the last of my weight, the hardest part while eating more carbs than I ever did, at least intentionally. So, it’s about being willing to be wrong, starting small and then just being willing, most of the stuff we teach you guys, to be sloppy. It’s not going to be…
Sometimes I think you guys think that just because I tell you to plan stuff you’ll be like, “Because I wrote it down I won’t overeat it. Because I wrote it down I won’t do what I always do literally every single time.” That habit is just broken because I put it on a piece of paper. That’s not true. You have to learn how to plan stuff on purpose and then to see what’s happening in your brain when it’s like you’re already, YOLO, YOLO, yeah, everything.
Ryan: So, would you say the biggest obstacle here is to eat carbs without not eating all the carbs?
Ryan: And what’s the solution to that? I would say it’s planning your carbs.
Maggie: Yeah, like everything I teach. And what that does, just as a reminder if you’re new here, it puts a different part of your brain in charge. It puts your prefrontal cortex, your higher brain that can think about the future, in charge when you plan stuff intentionally, it’s just different.
Ryan: So, what do I do then? Do I just write down?
Maggie: Yeah, you write down what you’re going to eat, exactly what you’re going to eat. Until you’ve been at this for a long time and you’ve developed more confidence really be specific about what you’re going to eat. Even if it’s you’re going to eat three pieces of pizza, you just be intentional about it because being intentional helps with the stopping point. Because most people aren’t perfect at stopping at enough. We work on that harder than anything else.
But you can start gaining more power here of eating carbs and continuing to lose weight by planning the carbs, being specific, following your plan, knowing it doesn’t get better the more that you eat. And what you gain at the other side of this, you guys, is new evidence for what you’re capable of. I hear so many times, “This is what I did, I would have never done this before I learned to do it the way you guys teach.” It’s very normal for you to be like, “Not me, I couldn’t do that.” But that’s how everyone feels until you learn how to do it.
And then all of a sudden, so when you have this belief, I always binge eat the carbs if I allow myself to have carbs, that’s your current belief. And then you have one time where you didn’t do that, guess what? You can’t ever say, “I always do that”, anymore, because you don’t always do it. You’re starting to slowly build up new evidence. So, it’s kind of just collecting those experiences under your belt and just collecting them.
Ryan: So, what’s the deal, you’re going to teach this more in depth in October in Vibe Club then?
Maggie: Yeah, I mean that’s the deal. That’s where I go deep with the stuff that I’m teaching.
Ryan: You’re going to do a class on it and you’re going to coach people on it too?
Maggie: It’s going to be a live workshop. It’s going to be a lot of teaching. Of course, there’ll be Q&A at the end of it. But I have never taught content like this before. And I’ve been working on the outline and it is thorough. And I want to explain to people how we got here, and how do we get out of here? My goal for my clients is always sustainability over everything. I just told someone today, I’m like, “This is not for now, this is for life. This is not for today, this is not for this year, this is not till you lose the 40 pounds. This is for life.”
And I want you all, I’ll have my clients be doing this too, but I want you all to check in with yourself and be like, is it reasonable for me to think I will never have a piece of cake again? Is it reasonable for me to think that I will never eat chips again, that I will never have a burger with a bun, that I will never have my favorite dessert? If the answer is no, it’s not reasonable to think that you won’t ever eat that again, then I beg of you to put some more emphasis on learning how to eat those things on purpose and with moderation.
Because nothing changes when you lose your weight, you don’t magically know how to control yourself around food that you’re terrified of. So, it’s important. Don’t wait four years like I did, I’m trying to help you guys. Save time, don’t wait four years like I did. And another thing I want to say about that, I was always eating that food anyways. I was doing it behind my back. I was binge eating it. I was way pushing past it and I felt terrible about it. I find old journals about the way that I talked to myself and the way that I felt about the choices that I was making.
The reason I felt that way about myself was because I wasn’t doing it intentionally. I was doing it and I believed I shouldn’t be doing it which was causing me to do it in a way that didn’t serve me, and didn’t serve my goals, and didn’t help with my weight loss. So, learn now, nothing magical happens. In fact, a lot of the time what happens is people lose their weight then they start saying, “I’m going to eat some stuff that I used to eat.” Or, “I’m going to go back to eating the way I used to.”
And they just gain all their weight back because they never learned how to just have that food in their plan right now as they lose weight. You can eat carbs and lose weight. And that’s what I’m going to be teaching next month.
Ryan: Go to vibewithmaggie.com to join, enrollment closes October 3rd.
Maggie: Do it before October 3rd, you guys. You’re not going to want to miss the workshop. And of course, it’ll be recorded and the replay will be available on your private member podcast. If you’re not able to attend the workshop live, you’re still going to get the content. And then we’re going to freaking kill it for the end of the year. I’m excited. I’m excited. We’re going to have thanksgiving, Christmas, ham, potatoes, whatever. My members, my clients, we don’t blackout at the end of the year.
I don’t do it. They don’t do it. It’s not what we’re going to do. So, if you want to be part of that join by October 3rd.
Ryan: See you.
Maggie: Right, see you next week.
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